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    That sounds like a good song to play at the end of the movie. I enjoyed it but I also enjoy radiohead. I can see why they didn't choose it though. Still that sam smith song was crap.

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    Poor Sam Smith he sings a song for a bond movie people hate almost as much as Quantum of Solace. And people bust his chops like it's apart of clearance sale.
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    For the record, I found Writing's on the Wall perfectly acceptable (musically speaking) up till the line "How do I live?" when Sam Smith's falsetto came in and just ruined the mood completely. I mean, the accompanying opening sequence was all kinds of awful, but I was mostly okay with the song...
    Radiohead's though? I don't like a single thing about it. It sounds like the singer is mumbling in his sleep while two random people in rooms on opposite ends of him are randomly bashing away at a piano and a drumset respectively. Not at all in sync with each other, of course.

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    Neither is very good, and it was almost impossible to top Adele's Skyfall. Writing's on the Wall tries and fails to stop it, while Spectre goes in some strange direction and forgets what emotion is.

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    Radiohead's though? I don't like a single thing about it. It sounds like the singer is mumbling in his sleep while two random people in rooms on opposite ends of him are randomly bashing away at a piano and a drumset respectively. Not at all in sync with each other, of course.
    It's the classic Radiohead syncopation though. Most of their music is like that, same for Thom Yorke's voice. It gets time to get used to it. (it took me years, really)
    The rhythm in Spectre isn't even that weird compared to songs like Pyramid Song or Videotape.

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    Sigh. Writing's on the Wall won Best Original Song at the Golden Globes

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    How, I mean how? That song was like hearing a cat scream after one stepped on it's tail. xD
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    Trailer for the new Bond film dropped this week.



    Not too much that stands out about it, but hopefully it'll be good.

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    I was interested cuz it seems that Bond is playing with high stakes this time (I know that since it's a franchise there's only so much they can risk, but still); but Malek doesn't seem like a threat. Specially with this brut of an 007 that could break him with half a chop. Probably they are going to run with the "he's SO wicked and insane" to make his appearance more impactfull on the big screen.

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    After watching Spectre recently I can't be less excited.

    It's like they just threw away the script halfway through the movie and just slapped bunch of silly villain tropes together until the end. Frankly, it's offensive that they actually put that movie out in that form after decades of Bond films.
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    After watching Spectre recently I can't be less excited.

    It's like they just threw away the script halfway through the movie and just slapped bunch of silly villain tropes together until the end. Frankly, it's offensive that they actually put that movie out in that form after decades of Bond films.
    More offensive than Die Another Day and Quantum Of Solace?
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    More offensive than Die Another Day and Quantum Of Solace?
    Been a while since I watched either of those. Certainly not impressing.

    Maybe I just expected more after Skyfall, which was decent, even with plot contrivances.

    Just remembering that whole desert lair sequence makes me want to cringe. Those helicopter and plane skits didn't help. Nor did that needlessly elaborate ploy at the end. I'm just summing parts for brevity.

    Probably the only fun part was Bond vs Drax at the train.
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    Maybe I just expected more after Skyfall, which was decent, even with plot contrivances.
    I think that was EVERYONE's expectation. It was I believe the same reason people didn't really care for QoS it was following a popular entry and despite the setup just fell flat Spectre I think was worse with the fact that it was essentially supposed to be the endgame of the story that was setup from CR (contrived as it was) and was not a good payoff.

    Now with this movie which is supposed to be Craig's final film as Bond it'll really be something if this movie just fails tie all this up effectively.
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    More offensive than Die Another Day and Quantum Of Solace?
    Die Another Day was dumb, but at least it was fun.

    Quantum of Solace was really hurt by the writers strike, but still came out kind of decent.

    Spectre was just...really hokey and unsatisfying. And they really blew it (ha) on Blofeld.

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    I suppose it doesn't help that Craig is tired of the franchise. And I'd totally agree with him. After Skyfall he would have had his perfect out and a fresh face (and better writing) could've made Spectre less of a mess.

    Usually I'd get incredibly excited for everything Bond (or Craig) related but I'm not getting my hopes up this time only to be disappointed again.

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    I must be the only human being that wasn't THAT bummed by Spectre, though I watched quite some time ago (when did it come out? 2016? I totally forgot). If I remember correctly, the Intro scene had really great cinematography, the "Spectra meeting where Blofeld whispers for no reason scene" was kind of tense (even if Honest Trailers ridiculed it), the fight against Bautista was cool, the chase around Roma was also pretty cool. The second half is a mess though, I'll admit. And I wanted Bellucci as the main female protagonist, but I guess since she's 4 years older than Craig, Léa Seydoux, who's 17 years younger, was a better option. Fuck that. What a waste that was.

    And yet, Quantum of Solace is, imho, way, WAY worse. Writers strike hurt it badly, yes, but it was also terribly edited. I don't wanna say shot, cause I don't know, but maybe the terrible editing was trying to mask that, like what happened (supposedly) with Bohemian Rhapsody.

    That being said, can't say I'm "hyped" per se, but overall the Craig movies are above average, with Casino being a legitimately great movie, plus Cary Joji Fukunaga is an interesting director (how much of the movie will be his and how much studio directed, we'll never know, but better have some faith). So, interested in the very least, yes.

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    Well yeah the intro was great. Until the helicopter part, that is. Should have went with something more realistic. Hand to hand against goons while chasing the bad guy maybe. Something closer to the parkour chase in Casino Royale. And with all the masked people around? Throw that potential in favor of overproduced helicopter madness?

    Loved the Spectre meeting atmosphere too. Should have lengthened that part and shortened the car getaway. Those are among the most boring parts in most action movies.
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    Only Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace were good (even though I despise Craig). I'm not expecting anything from this new film, especially since it was handled by many directors
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    I'm rewatching lots of the Bonds during the quarantine. Mainly Brosnan (because his are all on Netflix), and Craig. But maybe I'll do more than that too.

    New/old thoughts so far:

    Brosnan Era: Goldeneye is so fucking good, it really is.
    The other three are just....
    Tomorrow Never Dies starts nicely but just fizzles out. It's a very mediocre movie.
    World Is Not Enough has some brilliant ideas in it, especially on paper. But in execution fails and is a snorefest. Both villains are so theoretically good too. Christmas Jones is horrendous though.
    Die Another Day is an enormous turd of a movie, but you all knew that already. Halle Berry is so bad it's jawdropping. Lots of the movie is like that though.

    Craig Era (so far):
    Casino Royale is a Bond masterpiece as ever as always.
    Quantum of Solace? Is a good movie, fuck y'all. Then again I also get why people trip on it and come away unhappy. It's a messy movie in terms of pacing, so much is happening and going on but it has it's foot on the pedal the whole time. But if you can manage to process it right there's a darn good film there. If you haven't seen it since the first time I recommend another go, one where you strap in and pay close attention (I watched it this time in two half sessions, wonder if that helped).

    Skyfall rewatch next up.

    Also rewatched Goldfinger and still think it's horribly overrated. Though Connery is still awesome.

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    So our local streaming service put out the bond collection to help us pass the time during corona. So i've been plowing through the oldies up to for your eyes only, and just had to air some revised opinions.

    Doctor no - I was honestly suprised by how much i enjoyed this one. Like despite the fact that little actually happens its never dull. The sexy girl felt a little shoe horned in tho, but i mean i see the appeal. I also absolutely love that sixities this is what the future will look like tech.

    From Russia with love - Quite possibly the best one. I remembered finding the end really dull as a kid, but watching it as an adult the train scene is cinema gold. And this is the only bond where i could take spectre seriously. It sort of devolved into an austin powers parody as it went a long but the whole kronsten, klebb, grant line up was solid in this one.

    Goldfinger - I never really got into this one. It had its moments, Oddjob is memorable, as is the i expect you to die laser scene but outside of the big moments it doesn't captivate me. Pussy galore is a good bond girl name tho.

    Thunderball - I hated the underwater scenes. Like i get that they are impressive in execution, but i can only watch so many slow moving swimmers be spear gunned in the chest before i've got my permanent fill. And i mean the land scenes are nothing to write home about either, didn't care much for eye patch guy or spectres weird board room meetings.

    You only live twice - Seriously what the shit kind of cringe fest is this even? Bond autisticly reciting the best temperature to drink sake at and putting on a bad wig to pass for Japanese makes me want to hide under a blanket. Weaboo Bond aside it didn't have much of a wow factor for me, Pleasance as Blofeldt felt off, the best fight scene was at the harbor but i mean it was a small scene in a sea of cringe.

    In her majestys secret service - This one is hard to pin down. It has alot of things going for it, but its flaws stand out more for me. On the plus side i vastly prefer Kojak as Blofeldt, the action scenes were big, mood was good and Lazenby is good in the role. But the whole Bond gets married and the whole secret harem of doom killing the plants with their christimas presents plot was just a mess.

    Diamonds are forever - Now i know i'm going to get alot of shit for this. But i really enjoyed this one, its silly fun and i just find those two strange hitmen oh so entertaining. Like i get why people hate it, it is really different and campy, but i can't help but smile when Connery drives off in a bleep booping moonlander. Also my favorite Blofeldt actor.

    Live and let die - It is hard to take this one seriously. Jive talking pimps meets Roger i don't know what to do with his Moore. Also that annoying redneck sheriff came out of nowhere and people apparently liked him enough to bring him back. Tee-he was great tho, he, fat henchman and Samedi were fun. And what was up with that you banged the tarot reading out of me subplot?

    The man with the golden gun - Probably the biggest missed opportunity in the series. This could've been so good, but it is all wasted on some halfbaked supervillain plot. The real meat should've been on Lee and Moore, not on boring thai dude and the solar macguffin. Also the man who wrote in that sheriff again needs to be flogged.

    The spy who loved me - I loved jaws as a kid. And fortunetly i wasn't disapointed by this one on rewatching it. I mean what ever you feel about Moore you have to admit he hit every note here. Good villains, best bond babe, fucking Richard Kiel killing it before it all went to shit in Moonraker. I honestly can't think of any thing bad to say about this one.

    Moonraker - Yikes. I'd think its fair to say that Drax is the least interesting villain to have ever been in a bond film. The whole thing is a mess, the whole nazi eugenics in space plot just bores, jaws mets a girl and falls in love wut? And all those pew pew laser battles just hits all the wrong notes for me.

    For your eyes only - Viewed as a long set of stunts strung together by the smallest pretense of a plot this one is pretty entertaining. Bond driving Lupins car through some greek familys orchards and being chased by a pissed of eastern berliner down a bobsled course were great stunt scenes. I also get alot of mileage out of the Archer references. But plotwise its barely even a movie. Still like it tho.

    Oh well like thirteen more to go

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